Zoe: I never thought that I’d be interested in RVing again

tent-travel back and forth across the United States

with my kids. After that, I decided I never wanted

to pack or unpack another rig as long as I lived.

But while Lovern was in France on sabbatical, I

had a compulsion to buy an RV. I shopped for weeks

for an RV, not really wanting one—knowing that I

didn’t even like RVing.

So I finally found an RV I didn’t want. I ordered

it custom-made, and I got it as small as I could. I got

a 23-foot Born Free and wrote to Lovern and told

her that I had bought an RV and I had no idea why.

Zoe: I had no idea. I was going to park it in the driveway

I was going to do.

Marion: You get home to Seattle, where Lovern has her work in 

business. She decides to go out and stay overnight in the

rig in the driveway.

Zoe: We did take one overnight trip, and then after that she

 

said, “I’d like to sleep out in the rig in the driveway.”

I said, “If you’re going to do that, let’s move the rig to

an RV park and sleep there.” I didn’t want to sleep

in the driveway.

We kept the house, until Lovern said, “We could

go full-time RVing if you didn’t have to work.” So

that’s what we did. I sold my business and we began

RVing in the mid-1980s.

I was a psychologist by profession. Somebody

asked me once if I thought certain behavior modification

used with kids could work with dogs. I thought

that was the funniest thing I’d ever heard in my

life. Then I started looking at it. There was such a

market for it that I started taking care of issues on

the side.

Marion: What did your family think when you made the commitment 

Born Free?

Zoe: I didn’t ask them at that time. I just told them and

they didn’t offer any opinions about it. They were

just glad I was out of Los Angeles. They didn’t care

what I did.

 Heads up: Notice the sound quality variation from

Zoe’s opening comments and the grainy variation

from then on…a microphone computer connected

quality versus a long distance cel phone connection.